Jack joined us again to talk about elf sightings and his new podcast Otherworld which is a Christmas podcast about elves and Santa
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/10/22/otherworld-podcast-wagner-ufos-ghosts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/otherworld/id1647611444?uo=4
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